APAN P2P WG Meeting

Date : 2003. 8. 27(Wed)   11:00-12:30

Place:  Marriott Hotel Room C, Busan,  Korea

Chair:  Hunchol Kim

Secretary: Jane/APAN Secretariat 

Agenda:

 1. Roll Call
2. Agenda Bashing/Updates
3. Review of the Past WG activities
4. Country Report/Updates (if any)
5. Presentations
  
Korea@Home project status report (Connor Park/KISTI)
   Measurement and Analysis of P2P traffic on a High-bandwidth Network
    (Soribada(Korean Napster) and edonkey) by (Hong-ki Sul/KAIST)
6. Discussion
   Candidate WG Project Items (P2P traffic measurement,
Korea@Home, ...)
   Program for the Next Meetings (APAN/I2 Joint Techs Workshop in Honolulu)
7. Chair Election

        8. AOB

Documents:

Chair's report

Minute (Draft)

HC KIM 2003. 8.27
1. Date and Time : 2003.8.27(Wed) AM 11:00~12:30
2. Place : Room C, APAN Busan Meetings/Conference Venue (Marriott Hotel)
3. Participants :
   Suguru Yamaguchi/WIDE, Jun Matsukasta/NII, Kento Aida/TITECH,
   Daeyoung Kim/ANF, Yusung Kim/KAIST, Hyunchul Kim/KAIST,  Hooi/APAN Sec,
   Jane/APAN Sec
4. Agenda (Chair: Hyun-chul Kim)

  - Roll Call
  - Agenda Bashing
  - Review of the Past WG activities
      + this working group, for the last 2 years from 2001 Aug, has just focused
       on the first goal described in P2P WG charter, by inviting speakers
       from APAN/Internet2 community and giving/exchanging their
       experience/information at P2P sessions.
 
     + P2P Session Report
       1)
Korea@Home project, by Connor Park/KISTI
          An Hybrid P2P-style distributed computing platform
          Test operation (2003.2.6~2.14) :
            with 6,472 clients, achieved Max 644Gflops (> World Top Rank 124th).
                                         Avg. 470.6Gflops 
          Applications : Virtual Screening for new drug design,
                         3D image rendering
       2) Structured P2P Network for Loop Avoidance, by Chan-mo Park/KJIST
,      3) An Overview of Jxta for Supporting P2P Technologies and Applications, by Simon See/NTU&Sun
            Several p2p application examples developed using Jxta
    - Discussion/Comments 
     + No more just having a P2P session during APAN Meetings. we need to contribute to APAN community with our expertise that we have
      got in the area of P2P. 
     + Heterogeneous Network Environment across APAN countries (Dr. Yamaguchi)

      Glancing at the goals section in WG charter, this group seems to be interested in P2P techs/applications only on High-Bandwidth network
      environment. But, as we all know, only a few countries are in such an environment while the other countries do not. This heterogenous
      network environment, ranging from tens of Kbps to tens of Gbps, across APAN countries may provide us an unique environment filled with
      challenges and opportunities in researching/engineering P2P techonlogies and applications, typically well known as bandwidth-devouring demons.
      (e.g., what technologies are necessary to realize bandwidth-hogging p2p content-exchanging applications on this wide-area
       heterogeneous network environment? Grid WG members also have the same problem.)

      in this context, if P2P WG really wanna contribute to "APAN community as a whole" as stated in the charter, we'd better discuss and decide
      whether this heterogeneous network environment would be considered as a target network environment for this WG or not.
      Depending on the consensus of members on this matter, goals, milestones, and/or action items of this WG would be changed to reflect it.  

    + P2P traffic measurement and handling : issues

      some institutions/ISPs are measuring P2P traffic.
      we need to collect and exchange information and best practice on :

      - what are the characteristics of P2P traffic?
      - How to identify P2P traffic?
      - How do they handle with P2P traffic? what are the policies?

    + cooperative/collaborative project item?

      - Measurement-related one is the one obivious candidate. We can start from surveying and catching up related work that has been conducted
        by APAN and Internet2. any comments? volunteers? suggestions?
            - P2P Techs/Applications
       Need to perform a requirement analysis process to answer the question "what kind of p2p applications do we need on our network,
       and what technologies are necessary to enable them? By whom and how to develop, test and deploy them? "
      through brain-storming/discussion among WG members AS WELL AS YOUNG STUDENTS WHO USE P2P APPLICATIONS EVERYDAY.
      this process is expected to naturally lead members to discuss/cooperate with each other.  
     
graduatestudents@apan.net, a newly formed mailing list of APAN graduate studetns can be used as a good place for this.
       it's also strongly recommended that we try to have our own working code built/modified based on the above requirement analysis process.
          - APAN Computing and/or Storage Resource Pool?
      A non-profit public (but access is controlled somehow) computing resource pool or storage resource pool for APAN people, constructed with desktop
      resources can also be a candidate. would it be good/necessary for the APAN community? any comments?
 5. Chair Election

  - Hyunchul Kim is decided to keep going as a chair for another two years.

6. Next Meeting

    + Preparation for the next APAN meetings (APAN/I2 Joint Techs Workshop in Honolulu)

 

      Hold a joint session and WG meeting with I2 P2P WG.
      Try to give a few presentations from our side, whose contents are ones derived from the above process. Currently, chairs of the both WGs are
      already cross-subscribed to each other and more detailed things on the program will be discussed on mailing lists

 Participants:

Suguru Yawaguchi/WIDE
Jun Matsukasta/NII
Kento Aida/TITECH
DYKIM/ANF
YS Kim/Kaist
Hooi/APAN Sec
Jane/APAN Sec
.